FOI2026 interview with INA Digital Edu's Lody Andrian on design in governments

Forms. Steps. Approvals. Workflows. The sacred spreadsheet, probably.

But what happens when you start with the people using the system instead?

In this Festival of Innovation conversation, GovInsiders Si Ying Thian and Mochamad Azhar speak with Lody Andrian, Head of Design & Research at INA Digital Edu, about design as a force for government change.

We talk about GovTech Edu’s work in Indonesia’s education system, why design brings intentionality to public sector work, and what it takes to help teams shift from being process-oriented to user-centred.

Design, at its best, is not decoration. It is a way of asking: what are we actually trying to make happen, and for whom?

The video was first published on Civic Punks' YouTube page, and this was made possible through a collaboration between GovInsider and Civic Punks at the Festival of Innovation (FOI) 2026 event from 3-4 March 2026.